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Friday, August 14, 2009

Interns - something needs to be done

I'm getting more and more angry about the subject of design internships and the bizarre excuses that many in industry and, let's be honest, education, use to excuse the practice.

Internships, also known as placements, are "opportunities" for graduates to get experience of "real world work" which apparently makes CVs look better and increases your chance of getting a job.

The trouble is, the likelihood of getting a job is much reduced as a fair proportion of work is being done by interns working for free!
Or as Tory MP Philip Hammond recently told a constituent after being asked why he doesn’t pay his own interns: "I would regard it as an abuse of taxpayer funding to pay for something that is available for nothing"1. This, unfortunately is the endless loop we find ourselves in: many people agree that internships are bad, however there are many people wanting to do them, therefore you either stick to your principles and miss out on all that lovely "experience", or you give in.

Internships strike me as evidence firstly that the design industry doesn't rate qualifications much, and secondly that it certainly doesn't think "outsiders" (i.e. design educators) should be the ones to judge who's good enough to work among its number2. To support the first argument we can point out that the majority of designers don't have degrees - it's not a "degree-level position" and many degree-holding designers work at the same level, for the same "salary", as non-degree holders. In that sense, design is meritocratic - you're valued on how good you are, not on how qualified you are.
I don't have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with is undervaluing graduates. Other sectors don't do it - law, retail, medicine, architecture, teaching. What sets these apart is that either they recruit graduates in to well-paid jobs with responsibility and then train them, or they require a period of high-level apprenticeship which is highly structured and leads to a well-paid career at the end of it.

The argument that graduates shouldn't be paid because they are not experienced enough is, quite frankly, one of the most stupid fucking arguments I've ever heard a supposedly intelligent person make.
(And yes, I said fucking. It's unacademic, it's unprofessional, but it's how I feel, okay?)
Seriously, think about it for a moment. Try this scenario:

You go to visit your daughter's school to find out how she's doing. You chat to the young teacher who's in charge of her class, and who your daughter absolutely adores. She's young and you realise you're getting old for noticing. She talks expertly about your daughter's progress and clearly takes a lot of interest in her, and you're grateful. You later go to the head teacher and compliment her on the quality of her staff, making particular mention of your daughter's class teacher.
"Oh her," she says. "Yes, if she keeps this up we might start paying her and take her on full time. But only during term. We can't afford to keep her on during the school holidays".

This is plainly nonsense. It doesn't happen. New entrants to teaching are paid a decent salary (it could/should be higher, but let's not get in to that - the point is, they're paid a graduate-level salary and given responsibilities. They are also mentored and given time to continue with their development. Indeed, all teachers are. It's how people stay on top of their game.
But can you imagine if you discovered that schools were employing unpaid interns to do the teaching?

Compare that to design. New entrants are not given responsibilities, they are often not paid (and if they are, it's often peanuts) and, ultimately, they're not trusted. Internships or placements are trials. A company that uses them as a way of recruiting new staff is acting in a bizarre manner. It makes little sense.

When I left college at 19 I got a job as a designer/marketing assistant. I hadn't really wanted to be a designer but this was all I could get. So I effectively taught myself on the job, having gained a bit of experience with Pagemaker at college. Three days after joining the company, because of the oddities of their pay cycle, I received a payslip for three weeks' salary. I'd only just started, and I wasn't even up to speed. I didn't even know how to use the phone system, or have my own desk. Yet there I was with more money than I'd ever had before. Because I was - get this - working for them. Giving them my time in return for money. They didn't say "hey, you're new. We're effectively giving you our time so really, you owe us money. So how about we just don't pay you and call it quits?"

Which is interesting because that's exactly how internships work.

And you know how the company knew they wanted me to work for them and not someone else? They interviewed me. Twice. They looked at my work, they asked me questions about myself. They decided I was worth a chance and knew, as I did, that if it didn't work out, either of us could say "thanks but no thanks" and I'd be on my way.
Yes, employing someone is risky, yes it requires time and effort on the part of the employer but you know what? That's part of running a business. Building a team, nurturing it, valuing it.



I'm going to come back to this issue as there's much more to say but let me end this first instalment with a pointer to Seth Godin's blog where he talks about free work versus internships.
Like me he doesn't like internships for some of the same reasons. "Most of the time, the employer thinks he's doing the intern a favor, but he doesn't trust the interns to do any actual thoughtful, intelligent work worth talking about."

He loses me with the next bit: "And to be fair, most of the time the interns are busy hiding, not grabbing responsibility but instead acting like they're in school, avoiding hard work and trying to get an A."

I disagree with this assessment because an internship generally is not carried out as part of a course, it's a prelude to employment. I think he's mixing things up a bit here. Genuine work placements, part of a course, are rare. They shouldn't be, but it's not for want of trying. Many of the ones I know of are just a couple of weeks' "work experience" but a truly educational placement should be well-structured, include shadowing, not working, and be assessed. Which means the host has to be heavily involved in planning, implementing and evaluating it. And if that were the case, then anyone "trying to get an A" wouldn't do it by "avoiding hard work". For one thing, they shouldn't be working. That, after all, would be a case of the taxpayer subsidising free labour for the design industry, and in England and Wales, and other countries where students pay fees, it would be a case of the poor bastard literally paying to be "employed". But really, if Seth's first point is correct, that many employers don't trust people on placements, then I really couldn't blame anyone for not giving 100% in return. You get what you pay for, after all.

But Seth goes on to talk about the concept of "free work" like it's something else entirely. Now I have long advocated "free work" to my own students but I mean working for non-profits - local groups, charities, schools etc - as a way to give something back to the community and to get something in your portfolio. I would never advocate working for nothing for a company that can not only pay you, but is getting paid themselves. Seth seems to excuse it by its networking potential or karmic value - but you can network without selling your soul. It's this passage that really caused me to spit out my dummy:

"But you'd be amazed at how many fast-moving companies or influential individuals are all too happy to share credit if it helps the work get done."

As I twittered to Fergus Bisset, 'he says companies will "share credit". Wow! Thanks! Er, why not the money then?"'
If the argument is that a start-up needs help, and that if they're successful you will be too fails on a simple logic test: if that start-up is going to be successful you can bet your life they don't do it by doing free work for people. So why should you?3

And this ultimately boils down to the best argument against internships. I'll discuss the social impact of internships and the legal implications another time, but let me leave you with this: if the company you are working for is making money from the stuff you produce, they should be paying you. There is, as far as I can see, no reasonable argument against this. To do otherwise is theft, plain and simple. And something needs to be done.

[end of part 1. Coming soon: why internships are unfair and why they are illegal]



Update: as you may see from the comments, as well as Interns Anonymous, you can also discuss internships at The Water Cooler

1For what it's worth, I made a complaint about Mr Hammond to the Low Pay Commission. Phil Willis MP is, quite rightly, raising the issue on his site and via a press release.

2Easy answer: stop recruiting graduates and start recruting school leavers and run proper apprenticeships! Oh you used to do that. What happened? Oh yes, you "subcontracted" the role to colleges, funded by taxpayers, and saved the money didn't you? Trebles all round, as Private Eye would say.

3There is, of course, another aspect to this which is the concept of co-ops or labour exchanges. In this, you contribute your skill or time to help others and in return others help you. ("Time Bank" is a similar idea).

The important thing is that they need to be organised with a strong social aspect. When I lived in Brighton there were a few schemes like this kicking around including a skills swap for techies where someone who knew a few tricks in, say, CSS, would give a presentation to others and learn something in return. Or maybe they'd help someone out on their small company's site. In return that company might "pay" with free printing.

In effect, it's not work for free: it's work for favours. It relies on strong social/peer disapproval along the lines of the attitude you get if people you occasionally drink with notice that you always seem to benefit from someone else's round, but never seem to buy one yourself. Before you know it, you're not part of the group any more.

I recently advised someone to try this method of getting work but it does depend on you being in the right location and tapping in to an existing group - or setting one up. One thing it's not, though, is "work for free".

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7 comments:

Anonymous said...

And who could possibly argue with any of that?

We have a site where we try and do something about the use of illegally unpaid interns, mostly in the TV and Film industry:

http://tvwatercooler.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=sweat

Until HMRC does its job and requires employers to pay the minimumm wage where it is due, nothing will happen about this. They make you pay your taxes, why do they not make MPs pay their workers?

Sarah Drummond said...

Applause.

I echo the comment above, couldn't disagree with any of that.

Did some interviews the other day with design interns, (who are being paid), who are between their 3rd and 4th year of a bachelors. A quote that stood out for me in reply to my question,

'What do you think about working for free to get experience?'

"I'm trying to get my head around it, because I know I'm going to have to do it"

We're stuck, both on the employer and student side of thinking this is the way things are. If graduates were to stand up and say, 'No, enough is enough' then maybe there would be change, except, no one trusts each other to turn around and say no, because the thinking is that someone else will just swoop in and take your place.

I think something bigger needs to happen and I commend your work in contacting MPs, if there is anything more to get involved in, please let us know!

Sarah

Jonathan said...

Thanks Sarah. Interesting that the people you interviewed were being paid! And that they were doing what used to be called "sandwich" years, which seems ideal if, indeed, "experience" is seen as an essential qualification prior to entering industry (I'm not sure why it should be - seems odd).
Re-reading what I wrote I notice I confuse placements, work experience and internships and I think the terminology needs to be clarified. Placements, to me, are things you do while you're studying and should be for credit (so that student funding kicks in) and well-organised with shadowing opportunities. Work experience is low-level labour with no structure - filling in for others, making tea etc etc but still paid (just not very much). It may be done in the holidays while studying. Internships are formal training periods after graduation. They should be structured, involve work in different sections, result in a postgraduate qualification that is recognised in the industry, and interns should be paid a graduate-level starting salary at the national average (around £22k/year).
They should be funded via a central pot derived from a training levy that is based on turnover. This would allow small design companies to offer internships which are subsidised by larger companies - this is only fair as the whole sector benefits from well-trained staff.
The quality of internships should be regulated.

That's my opening gambit, anyway!

Sarah Drummond said...

I get you, well I guess you would call it a placement, with regards to the students I interviewed.

What is even more interesting, is that they are being employed as service designers in a public sector organisation.

They have been given a lot of free reign, which is great and to their credit the work looks good and well thought through. I think its great to see the company valuing their work and looking forward to the outcome. You can see it has really given the two of them a sense of purpose and pride in their work.

I did the same last summer in my 'sandwich' summer, fantastic opportunity, and lots of time to explore, although does lack a little guidance from a professional level in the design stakes, but on the positive side, gave me time to explore, learn what it's like to work with clients and gain some vital experience, whilst being paid enough money to get by.

One of the guys also made a comment about getting paid, that you feel of more worth, that what you are doing is valuable and that inevitably by getting paid, you will work harder.

I certainly felt different when I was being paid for my work, I also felt more valuable, and it made me really consider that the work I was doing must be to a really high standard.

Jonathan said...

Sounds interesting - I'd like to hear more about what you do with the interviews.
I wonder if service design, being a young area, is more enlightened? I certainly think that's the case in terms of its relationship to academia (non-hostile, permeable boundaries, research focus etc)... mmm

Anonymous said...

The full story about this Philip Hammond internship is now to be found here:

http://tvwatercooler.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=sweat&action=display&thread=9532&page=11

And Sarah, if you want to get involved with info or opinion, it would be very welcome!

Anonymous said...

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http://www.tvwatercooler.org/

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